white house. nobody over there wants to go over the cliff at this time, there's nothing that wants to do it. >> once we get over it, we hope it's a bridge to something that will help you and caterpillar compete better in the world. after the cliff, what do you want? is there any emphasis on corporate tax reform that we need or how to bring $2 trillion back to this country? aren't those things, did you talk about any of those or the cliff? >> we talked about all of those, long-term competitiveness for our country, immigration reform that needs to happen, and there's a lot of bipartisan support for corporate and personal tax reform next year and i know j.timmonds was on earlier. private factories in this country need more also. that's a hot topic right around the corner but it's important we get through the cliff, that government governors, we get leadership, get over the cliff and move to the next thing. i think everybody's talking about it. >> doug, let me ask you a question. i think there's a str